I’ve spent my whole life in England and Wales and only ever met one person use the phrase ‘can you borrow me that?’. She was in primary school. She now says it properly.
So make it everywhere except America, Canada, England and Wales (just need Scotland and we got all of Britain)…
So the whole, post-the-color-of-your-bra thing was confusing at first, but then I saw that my wife had posted “black with gold sparkles” and I was like…”oohhh… that’s dumb”. That doesn’t raise awareness of breast cancer! Every STRAIGHT guy who finally understood what it meant thought about the same thing… BOOBS! Yes, it raises awareness of breasts among women, but guys, seriously… ask yourself this question- “Am I not thinking about breasts enough without having every woman I know post the color of their boob-holders..err, bra?”. That, in itself, was lame… And women think we bring it on ourselves… psh! π
I’m British, having grown up in London but taught in schools in both the north and south of the country. I also have friends and colleagues from all over the U.K. and a handful of Ozzies and Kiwis I worked with in London, too. Anyway, “qualifications” aside: it seems to me that you’re getting confused. This “borrowed” thing is quite peculiar and not used by “EVERYONE” as you are suggesting.
Sure, a kid in Liverpool might ask his teacher, “Miss, can I lend a pencil?” However, he would never say “The teacher borrowed me a pencil”. He just wouldn’t use the word borrow at all, really.
I’ve heard Irish people talk about “getting a lend” (instead of a loan).
But using the word “borrow” to mean “lend”? Never heard it, ever. The above 2 examples are the only similar ones I’ve heard, and I’ve been about. If this strange usage of “borrow” exists at all (outside of the above Facebook comment), then it’s certainly not as widespread as you suggested.
So please, Hootie, stop pulling this crap out of your arse.
Oh, and I agree with Lizzle. It’s kind of silly the way you a) think no one should correct anyone’s grammatical mistakes and b) call people “ignorant” just because they aren’t aware of some obscure aspect of a certain dialect in a country far away from them. Stop trying to represent the people you have nothing to do with. We don’t talk the way you say we do, and if we did, we could survive a small handful of Lamebook commentators making fun of our accents.
I have NEVER heard ‘borrowed’ in that context. It is ridiculous. It’s the same thing when people say they ”itched’ a ‘scratch”! It drives me nuts. You scratch itches… not the other way around.
I love when people raise awareness! Why do anything useful, like also post a link to a cancer site or somewhere to educate people? How the hell does it help anything when all the ladies on your friends list post a color? This doesn’t help research or funding. It’s just annoying. Really, who is not aware of CANCER? I’d like to take this moment to make you aware of underwear. Did you know that people wear them? Did you know that some people don’t? Did you know they come in different styles? Did you know some people call them “knickers.” I call mine panties. I don’t want you do anything with this info. I just wanted you to be aware.
@Chinchillazilla -Alas, this is not the case. I can’t even tell you the amount of times I’ve heard people say something similar to this, “I had to itch my back”. But yes, anyone that ‘borrows’ someone something… needs to be poked in the eye with a big toe rotting with athlete’s foot.
I always think these lamebook discussions about spelling and grammar are a bit lame in themselves so don’t tend to join in, however, as a Brit now living in America I can confirm that I have heard “borrow” used in the context of “can you borrow me that..” and indeed often those people also “axe” questions, not yet in America, but I’m sure given time…. In my experience (a dozen + schools during training and employment in the UK: SW and East Anglia) the persons concerned were under 18 and of Afro Caribbean descent (I’m guessing all were British born.) This is quite a distinct dialect, and although this phrase is grammatically incorrect, within its cultural context I feel it should be allowed to go unchallenged (mho anyway.) It’s no more annoying or incorrect than “can I have a lend of…” which others have pointed out is also in common usage certainly in parts of the UK if not elsewhere (another one I’ve heard a lot over the years.) By all means answer people who ask these questions in this way with the correct language, and I’d hate to see it start appearing in print and on news reports etc. but let’s not be too snooty about it (particularly if there are going to be other errors in those criticism filled posts!)
..and yes MNic people that “itch scratches” irritate me to.
To the people who keep commenting on the grammar issues, just join “For Every Time You Misuse an Apostrophe, I’m Going to Remove a Finger” on Facebook where you will find many like minded souls.
I frequently hear people swapping “borrow” and “lend”.
He borrowed me a tenner… (LENT!)
Can I lend that book off you… (BORROW! FROM!)
I’m from Wales, since we’re comparing geographical dialects. Is someone going to draw us a map?
I don’t correct my friends, since some of them are genuinely unaware that there’s a difference, and it’s not worth the social awkwardness. I just twitch slightly inside, just like when they say “I seen him” (SAW!) or “She text me yesterday”. (TEXTED! If you’re going to use “text” as a verb, then at least do it properly!)
Thank you for reading, I’m sure it’s been as therapeutic for you as it has for me.
So if we’re swapping around “borrow” and “lend” now, does that mean I can do it with other stuff as well? Like, whenever I read a book can I now say I wrote it?
@hootie the blowfish…I am from Australia and no educated, even uneducated, person I have ever met here has used “borrowed” in that way! I’m sorry but I have to say itβs simply incorrect.
You say we shouldn’t say things about people just because they speak differently, well this isn’t a case of using a phrase in a different context such as “i was pissed” meaning either I was angry, or I was drunk, or spelling something with a Z not an S, this is just WRONG! They are obviously speaking English, (well trying to) and the English language just doesn’t use “borrowed” in that way. I’m certainly not perfect when it comes to grammar but thats just glaring.
@50 Lizzle you hit the nail on the head….with a club lol.
How ridiculous. Borrow and lend are opposites like black and white. Anyone who thinks they are interchangeable doesn’t know how to talk properly. I remember kids having trouble with this when I was in grade two.
1. Only people who use the word “borrowed” incorrectly would get so defensive about it. Just a thought. I have an acquaintance who used it in an email, and I tried to correct her to no avail… Moron. “Can I have the book back that I borrowed to you?” WTF?
2. I’m inclined to believe that the “ass cream” these girls are talking about is something like the stuff they sell at passion parties? I can’t imagine flaunting Prep H at a party or something… but I can imagine some dumb slut flaunting her jar of “Booty Ease” at a party for attention. Glad I missed that party.
I’ve spent my whole life in England and Wales and only ever met one person use the phrase ‘can you borrow me that?’. She was in primary school. She now says it properly.
So make it everywhere except America, Canada, England and Wales (just need Scotland and we got all of Britain)…
So the whole, post-the-color-of-your-bra thing was confusing at first, but then I saw that my wife had posted “black with gold sparkles” and I was like…”oohhh… that’s dumb”. That doesn’t raise awareness of breast cancer! Every STRAIGHT guy who finally understood what it meant thought about the same thing… BOOBS! Yes, it raises awareness of breasts among women, but guys, seriously… ask yourself this question- “Am I not thinking about breasts enough without having every woman I know post the color of their boob-holders..err, bra?”. That, in itself, was lame… And women think we bring it on ourselves… psh! π
Breast-awareness is NOT my problem. π
MNic, I’m female and I agree with you 100%, the whole thing was pointless and did not raise awareness at all. Hence why I didn’t participate in it.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure the only reason why my wife did it was to bug me:) That and she was wearing her favorite one at the time.
Sorry Hootie but you’re quite wrong.
I’m British, having grown up in London but taught in schools in both the north and south of the country. I also have friends and colleagues from all over the U.K. and a handful of Ozzies and Kiwis I worked with in London, too. Anyway, “qualifications” aside: it seems to me that you’re getting confused. This “borrowed” thing is quite peculiar and not used by “EVERYONE” as you are suggesting.
Sure, a kid in Liverpool might ask his teacher, “Miss, can I lend a pencil?” However, he would never say “The teacher borrowed me a pencil”. He just wouldn’t use the word borrow at all, really.
I’ve heard Irish people talk about “getting a lend” (instead of a loan).
But using the word “borrow” to mean “lend”? Never heard it, ever. The above 2 examples are the only similar ones I’ve heard, and I’ve been about. If this strange usage of “borrow” exists at all (outside of the above Facebook comment), then it’s certainly not as widespread as you suggested.
So please, Hootie, stop pulling this crap out of your arse.
Oh, and I agree with Lizzle. It’s kind of silly the way you a) think no one should correct anyone’s grammatical mistakes and b) call people “ignorant” just because they aren’t aware of some obscure aspect of a certain dialect in a country far away from them. Stop trying to represent the people you have nothing to do with. We don’t talk the way you say we do, and if we did, we could survive a small handful of Lamebook commentators making fun of our accents.
I was born and raised in the UK, never once heard the word ‘borrowed’ used in that context. It sounds completely fucking ridiculous.
“So make it everywhere except America, Canada, England and Wales (just need Scotland and we got all of Britain)⦔
I’m from Scotland so you can add Scotland to the list too. Not even heard the neds using borrowed in that way.
I hear it all the time in the US. Constantly.
The fact of the matter is that it’s improper English, US or otherwise.
I have NEVER heard ‘borrowed’ in that context. It is ridiculous. It’s the same thing when people say they ”itched’ a ‘scratch”! It drives me nuts. You scratch itches… not the other way around.
@MNic: I’m inclined to think that people “itching a scratch” just misspoke. The words are sort of similar… not very, but easy enough to transpose.
Borrowing a thing to someone, though? That means you’re an idiot.
I love when people raise awareness! Why do anything useful, like also post a link to a cancer site or somewhere to educate people? How the hell does it help anything when all the ladies on your friends list post a color? This doesn’t help research or funding. It’s just annoying. Really, who is not aware of CANCER? I’d like to take this moment to make you aware of underwear. Did you know that people wear them? Did you know that some people don’t? Did you know they come in different styles? Did you know some people call them “knickers.” I call mine panties. I don’t want you do anything with this info. I just wanted you to be aware.
@Chinchillazilla -Alas, this is not the case. I can’t even tell you the amount of times I’ve heard people say something similar to this, “I had to itch my back”. But yes, anyone that ‘borrows’ someone something… needs to be poked in the eye with a big toe rotting with athlete’s foot.
I always think these lamebook discussions about spelling and grammar are a bit lame in themselves so don’t tend to join in, however, as a Brit now living in America I can confirm that I have heard “borrow” used in the context of “can you borrow me that..” and indeed often those people also “axe” questions, not yet in America, but I’m sure given time…. In my experience (a dozen + schools during training and employment in the UK: SW and East Anglia) the persons concerned were under 18 and of Afro Caribbean descent (I’m guessing all were British born.) This is quite a distinct dialect, and although this phrase is grammatically incorrect, within its cultural context I feel it should be allowed to go unchallenged (mho anyway.) It’s no more annoying or incorrect than “can I have a lend of…” which others have pointed out is also in common usage certainly in parts of the UK if not elsewhere (another one I’ve heard a lot over the years.) By all means answer people who ask these questions in this way with the correct language, and I’d hate to see it start appearing in print and on news reports etc. but let’s not be too snooty about it (particularly if there are going to be other errors in those criticism filled posts!)
..and yes MNic people that “itch scratches” irritate me to.
To the people who keep commenting on the grammar issues, just join “For Every Time You Misuse an Apostrophe, I’m Going to Remove a Finger” on Facebook where you will find many like minded souls.
AAAgh you see there’s a typo in there too, who’ll be the first to spot it
I frequently hear people swapping “borrow” and “lend”.
He borrowed me a tenner… (LENT!)
Can I lend that book off you… (BORROW! FROM!)
I’m from Wales, since we’re comparing geographical dialects. Is someone going to draw us a map?
I don’t correct my friends, since some of them are genuinely unaware that there’s a difference, and it’s not worth the social awkwardness. I just twitch slightly inside, just like when they say “I seen him” (SAW!) or “She text me yesterday”. (TEXTED! If you’re going to use “text” as a verb, then at least do it properly!)
Thank you for reading, I’m sure it’s been as therapeutic for you as it has for me.
So if we’re swapping around “borrow” and “lend” now, does that mean I can do it with other stuff as well? Like, whenever I read a book can I now say I wrote it?
@hootie the blowfish…I am from Australia and no educated, even uneducated, person I have ever met here has used “borrowed” in that way! I’m sorry but I have to say itβs simply incorrect.
You say we shouldn’t say things about people just because they speak differently, well this isn’t a case of using a phrase in a different context such as “i was pissed” meaning either I was angry, or I was drunk, or spelling something with a Z not an S, this is just WRONG! They are obviously speaking English, (well trying to) and the English language just doesn’t use “borrowed” in that way. I’m certainly not perfect when it comes to grammar but thats just glaring.
@50 Lizzle you hit the nail on the head….with a club lol.
How ridiculous. Borrow and lend are opposites like black and white. Anyone who thinks they are interchangeable doesn’t know how to talk properly. I remember kids having trouble with this when I was in grade two.
he whole Bra coloUr thing was lame in itself, not to mention obvious.
bra color, who cares.
Slightly disturbed that Ashlynn, Olivia and Destiny are sharing the same tube of butthole inflamation ointment. *shudder*
Makes me wonder since they share the cure whether they are also sharing the cause.
1. Only people who use the word “borrowed” incorrectly would get so defensive about it. Just a thought. I have an acquaintance who used it in an email, and I tried to correct her to no avail… Moron. “Can I have the book back that I borrowed to you?” WTF?
2. I’m inclined to believe that the “ass cream” these girls are talking about is something like the stuff they sell at passion parties? I can’t imagine flaunting Prep H at a party or something… but I can imagine some dumb slut flaunting her jar of “Booty Ease” at a party for attention. Glad I missed that party.