I think Gabrielle has it right. I know there would be a bunch of politically incorrect a-holes up in here talking about how a Heather or a Rachael or a Molly or Claire shouldn’t name their child Jesus. I change my answer to Gabrielle’s.
I’m going to have to agree with Swiper on this. I’m pretty sure Andrew was saying no to Church’s Fried Chicken, which would be in the same category as Chick-Fil-A.
The joke being that his mother clearly suggests church, the place to worship.
Ralphie May (comedian) has a joke about making Chick-fil-a a religion, and how he frequents the drive thru stoned and yells at the speaker when it’s closed. Anyways, he could be referring to that..if not “the more you know.”
Also, I know people who work at Chick-fil-a, and it is a privately owned/operated franchise, so while some owners could base hiring on religion, not all do. These same people have also gone to corporate meetings and trainings and they never mentioned anything about praying.
I’m guessing they left the “Garcia” bit to emphasize that they are a Hispanic family, therefore naming your son Jesús is perfectly normal. Then again she spells her son’s name wrong, because it has an accent over the “u” in Spanish.
Being Australian, I don’t know Chick-Fil-A or their hiring policies but it seems that there is some first hand experience out there about them asking about a prospective employee’s religion which might or might not impact upon them getting the job, and then some contributors seem to defend that or at the very least think it is an alright thing to do.
Let me ask you this, if there was a $3 billion fast food outlet in the States that was even slightly affiliated with Islam and asked in interviews about praying to Mecca how would you feel about that? Would you still protect their rights to freedom of religion and freedom “to hire whomever they want and turn away anybody for any reason”. I doubt it.
It’s against the law in the U.S. for an employer to ask any questions about religion or political affiliation on a job application or in an interview, and it is also illegal to fire someone based on such things.
@awful – Actually, yes – but only by the people who really “get” freedom. It seems in these times, people see a selfish form of freedom, “my freedom”.
Take a burning flag, for example. Anyone who freaks out about that – subscribes to the selfish freedoms, and not true freedom. If you freaked, you didn’t see it for letting someone exhibit freedom of speech or expression (even if it goes against your very core).
Another example would be that Facebook group that had millions of members – the group was “Petition to Remove ‘Dont Support Our Troops'” or something or other. A great example of millions of people who preach democracy and freedoms, but are actually embracing fascism in trying to get something they don’t agree with destroyed.
Freedom isn’t easy. All along you’ll run into with “omfg, that’s sooo not right; that’s so wrong!”. That’s where selfish-freedom stops. True freedom carries it further with, “…but, it’s their right to express it, no matter how much I think it sucks.”
In the end, I think the right answer is staying true to your own freedoms and morals; and letting them “speak” for you, instead of “I disagree with that opinion, therefore I must destroy it – so more people don’t know of an existing choice and fall into my camp.”
Or, you know, just quote Evelyn Beatrice Hall who said it much more succinctly “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Thank you Zoobert, I had to read your post a couple of times wondering if you got my point, having said that, I agree with what you say, but I do feel it is wrong to consider hiring someone based on their religion or any other personal views.
@SammiDe: Thanks for saying exactly what I was thinking 🙂
@44: thanks for clearing that up! I was also pretty grossed out by the thought of a chicken flavoured biscuit- here in SA biscuit and cookie means the same thing… as in ‘crunch crunch’ cookies… in a tin… bleugh…
I remember reading a few years back that Chick-fil-a only sold franchises to christian-minded people…so I never buy there! Hey it’s my own little protest…
@Trossi: My husband looked into that recently. Chick-Fil-A will not sell a franchise unless the potential buyer is a member of a church and attends regularly. Although, in theory, I would imagine they’d still sell a franchise to a practicing Jew as long as he complied with their corporate regulations.
One thing’s for sure: they don’t ask for your religious affiliation when they’re taking your money at the drive-through. (And to be fair, I should say I’ve always received excellent service at Chick-Fil-A.)
did they blur her first name instead of last since there are so many thousands of Garcias in Mexico alone? ole!
@Earthling122: I’m going to assume they did that to show that she’s Hispanic, so we don’t think she named her kid after Jesus Christ.
Maybe I’m tired, but I have no idea what’s going on here…
Chick fila or whatever, breaded chicken on biscuits..all too hard
I think Gabrielle has it right. I know there would be a bunch of politically incorrect a-holes up in here talking about how a Heather or a Rachael or a Molly or Claire shouldn’t name their child Jesus. I change my answer to Gabrielle’s.
WWJD? .. eat a fucking chicken biscuit that’s what
I’m going to have to agree with Swiper on this. I’m pretty sure Andrew was saying no to Church’s Fried Chicken, which would be in the same category as Chick-Fil-A.
The joke being that his mother clearly suggests church, the place to worship.
I was raised on the bible too. Fiber does a body good, but after a while the leather covers get just too chewy.
Ralphie May (comedian) has a joke about making Chick-fil-a a religion, and how he frequents the drive thru stoned and yells at the speaker when it’s closed. Anyways, he could be referring to that..if not “the more you know.”
Also, I know people who work at Chick-fil-a, and it is a privately owned/operated franchise, so while some owners could base hiring on religion, not all do. These same people have also gone to corporate meetings and trainings and they never mentioned anything about praying.
Heh. So now I get the Chick-fil-a joke..I’m dense.
I’m guessing they left the “Garcia” bit to emphasize that they are a Hispanic family, therefore naming your son Jesús is perfectly normal. Then again she spells her son’s name wrong, because it has an accent over the “u” in Spanish.
Being Australian, I don’t know Chick-Fil-A or their hiring policies but it seems that there is some first hand experience out there about them asking about a prospective employee’s religion which might or might not impact upon them getting the job, and then some contributors seem to defend that or at the very least think it is an alright thing to do.
Let me ask you this, if there was a $3 billion fast food outlet in the States that was even slightly affiliated with Islam and asked in interviews about praying to Mecca how would you feel about that? Would you still protect their rights to freedom of religion and freedom “to hire whomever they want and turn away anybody for any reason”. I doubt it.
Ryan read the bible?
I’m surprised he isn’t an Atheist.
It’s against the law in the U.S. for an employer to ask any questions about religion or political affiliation on a job application or in an interview, and it is also illegal to fire someone based on such things.
Thank you nickvonawesome, I thought that that might have been the case.
@awful – Actually, yes – but only by the people who really “get” freedom. It seems in these times, people see a selfish form of freedom, “my freedom”.
Take a burning flag, for example. Anyone who freaks out about that – subscribes to the selfish freedoms, and not true freedom. If you freaked, you didn’t see it for letting someone exhibit freedom of speech or expression (even if it goes against your very core).
Another example would be that Facebook group that had millions of members – the group was “Petition to Remove ‘Dont Support Our Troops'” or something or other. A great example of millions of people who preach democracy and freedoms, but are actually embracing fascism in trying to get something they don’t agree with destroyed.
Freedom isn’t easy. All along you’ll run into with “omfg, that’s sooo not right; that’s so wrong!”. That’s where selfish-freedom stops. True freedom carries it further with, “…but, it’s their right to express it, no matter how much I think it sucks.”
In the end, I think the right answer is staying true to your own freedoms and morals; and letting them “speak” for you, instead of “I disagree with that opinion, therefore I must destroy it – so more people don’t know of an existing choice and fall into my camp.”
Or, you know, just quote Evelyn Beatrice Hall who said it much more succinctly “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Wow, those chicken ‘biscuits’ are very different.
@ Lulla – Merci beaucoup!
@ThinkingInPictures:
Thanks. =)
Thank you Zoobert, I had to read your post a couple of times wondering if you got my point, having said that, I agree with what you say, but I do feel it is wrong to consider hiring someone based on their religion or any other personal views.
@SammiDe : zeus is ‘that mythology god’. Sorry, I thought they were all mythological 😉
@awful thank you.
What if “freedome speech” advocates the annhilation of the other’s culture pretending to be the “Legitimate Successor” ???
@SammiDe: Thanks for saying exactly what I was thinking 🙂
@44: thanks for clearing that up! I was also pretty grossed out by the thought of a chicken flavoured biscuit- here in SA biscuit and cookie means the same thing… as in ‘crunch crunch’ cookies… in a tin… bleugh…
It is illegal in the United States to ask for religious affiliations because it can lead to discrimination
Haha, Jesus ftw.
I remember reading a few years back that Chick-fil-a only sold franchises to christian-minded people…so I never buy there! Hey it’s my own little protest…
Curches chicken is da bomb!!
Guys, they left the GARCIA part to let you know it was an hispanic mother.
That’s why you don’t name your kid Jesus….
@Trossi: My husband looked into that recently. Chick-Fil-A will not sell a franchise unless the potential buyer is a member of a church and attends regularly. Although, in theory, I would imagine they’d still sell a franchise to a practicing Jew as long as he complied with their corporate regulations.
One thing’s for sure: they don’t ask for your religious affiliation when they’re taking your money at the drive-through. (And to be fair, I should say I’ve always received excellent service at Chick-Fil-A.)
Yawn.